>> greg: set your dvrs every night so you never miss an episode. thanks to abby hornacek, walter kirn, mike baker, kat timpf, our studio audience. "fox news @ night" with shannon bream is next. i'm greg gutfeld, i love you, america. ♪ ♪ >> shannon: hello and welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream in washington. breaking tonight, new video of rescue crews desperately digging through the rubble and floodwaters in the basement of a collapsed condo near miami. south florida professional sports teams all pitching in, the dolphins, marlins, all offering to provide aid for anybody impacted. we will take you to the scene

minutes away. plus a new twist in the mysterious double murder of a son and a mother from a prominent family in south carolina. a former trooper speaking out tonight about the possible connection to a cold case he investigated years ago. and it's not just parents, but now teachers and officials all at odds over critical race theory. lawmakers today feeling the heat. were public and congressman bob good apparently called a racist during a virtual house committee on the controversial topic today. a brain to develop internet. we begin tonight with that gut wrenching scene in south florida as first responders are working around the clock searching for any possible survivors of that catastrophic apartment building complex. correspondent jonathan serrie is there live on the scene in surfside florida senate. jonathan, what is the latest? >> well, shannon, the weather certainly is not cooperating with the rescuers. there have been thunderstorms coming in and out of south florida.

nevertheless, firefighters and other first responders are working into the night. they are searching the rubble that used to be a multiple condominium unit, searching for any sign of life. they are accessing the rubble through basement parking garage, but the conditions there are treacherous. the garage is partially flooded from all of the burst pipes that were destroyed when the building was falling down. firefighters are working with a structural engineer to prevent the debris from collapsing any further on the rescuers. the search teams are using dogs thomas sonar, and electronic listening devices. >> we did receive sound, not necessarily people talking, but sounds, what sounds like people banging -- not people, but sounds of -- a possibility of a banging. short of that we haven't heard any voices coming from the pile. >> the first rescuers on the scene pulled 35 occupants from the building. 11 were treated for injuries and

four were taken to the hospital. so far authorities have only confirmed one fatality, but that number is expected to increase. >> we did identify and declare safe 102 people and 99 we still cannot account for, some of whom may not have been in the building. >> and champlain tower south was constructed in 1981. because this building is 40 years old, it had to undergo a mandatory recertification process. it reportedly had undergone some new construction on the roof, but at this point it is unclear what led to the building collapsed. shannon, police plan to investigate that once the search and rescue phase concludes. back to you. >> shannon: so, jonathan, had there been any indication of problems with the building in the past? >> there is a florida international university

professor who was interviewed in "usa today." he said that back in the '90s, this particular building was actually sinking at a rate of 2 millimeters per year. what's unclear is whether this trend continued into the ensuing years and decades and even if it did, whether it had anything to do with the building collapse, shannon. >> shannon: and apparent look, jonathan, we're hearing a lot of people who lived in the building were foreign nationals. do we know about efforts to assist them, to get to their loved ones our families? >> yet, many of them hold israeli passports. marco rubio, a florida senator, marco rubio, says that about a third of those unaccounted for our foreign nationals and that his office and others are working with the various consulates to arrange visas for family members and loved ones to come to the united states to look after their loved ones as

needed, shannon. >> shannon: a lot of brave folks there working around the clock going into a very dangerous situation, trying to save lives. jonathan, thank you for the update. >> certainly. >> shannon: breaking tonight, protest erupting again in rock hill, south carolina, for a second night. there are reports of an officer involved in a fight with protesters after fireworks were thrown into a crowd near the police department. there are also reports that police have made several arrests tonight, we are going to continue to monitor that situation. meanwhile, correspondent lauren green has tonight's crime report from york city. hey, lauren. >> good evening, shannon. as summer kicks off, crimes across the country continue to rise as police officers find themselves continually on the defensive. >> has a going? do you live your? >> in daytona beach, florida, a massive manhunt is underway after this routine investigation of a suspicious vehicle turned violent. body cam footage shows 26 rolled police officer approaching the vehicle. he was shot in the head and is

now fighting for his life. a $100,000 reward is being offered for the capture of the suspect, 29-year-old opal wallace who drove away in a 2016 honda. >> i was heartbroken in reference to what took place. i'm still heartbroken. i am hopeful and i'm keeping the faith that he's going to pull through, but this was a senseless tragedy. >> chanting and waiting black lives matter flags, angry protesters lit a fire outside the softer line of least apartment. the escalating unrest began after this footage on social media of two brothers scuffling with police and eventually arrested on drug charges. a second night of protests tonight with several arrests being made. as the post-covert summer kicks off, police find themselves again in the crosshairs. important organ, police executive says morale is the worst it's ever been after 50

members of the rapid response team resigned. in illinois, police were defending this patch called the thin blue line after locals said it was divisive. the patch was designed a few years ago after a large number of police officers were being ambushed in their cars. >> that thin blue line that comes salt -- some call evil, fearful, or a symbol of hate is a total disrespect to everyone of those officers who have given their all serving their communities. not white super messy. it's not neo-naziism, it does not represent hate. >> according to the fraternal order of police, 145 officers have been shot so far this year. 70% rise from last year. shannon. >> shannon: lauren green in new york, thank you so much, lauren. former south carolina state trooper speaking out tonight about this month's double murder of a mother and son from a prominent myrtle family and the possible connection to a now-reopened fatal 2015 cold case investigated but never believed was actually the result of an alleged hit-and-run.

>> nothing about this case from the very beginning pointed towards it being hit-and-run. there was no evidence that, you know, pointed towards a vehicle even being involved in it. it looks like it was more staged, look possibly the body had been placed in the roadway. >> shannon: so the coroner's report of the time concluded that 19-year-old stephen smith was most likely killed by being hit in the head by the mirror of a passing semitruck. police said he was walking on a two-lane road after running out of gas. you can hear the trooper is not buying that an apparent live there's been something discovered in this double murder that may be connected to that case. as we showed you, we are continuing to monitor a second night of protests in rock hill, south carolina. we are hearing reports of several arrests there tonight as tensions escalate outside the police department, just one of the latest hot spots. let's bring in tonight's team to discuss crime and also the border crisis.

townhall.com senior writer julio rosas and former police chief -- great to have you both joining us in. >> thank you, shannon. >> thank you. >> shannon: let's start with the crime. "new york post" has an opinion piece by rich lowry today. he says biden's anti-crime plan ignore his party's role in crating the urban crisis. he says the simple answer for the rise in murder is that besieged police have been more cautious or defensive in their controlling. comes across against a backdrop of a year's long trend in major cities of limiting police stops and elevating progressive district attorneys devoted to keeping as many people as possible out of jail and, julio, we have used your reporting, excellent reporting on the ground, you've been to these places were at them and all kinds of things going on in cities like portland and seattle. then we hear weeks or months later that a lot of these people, even if they were charged and initially arrested, aren't actually going to face any prosecution. >> right, and that's really disturbing trend of what we are seeing across the country and really miss -- i mean,

unfortunately the riots really emboldened people to go out and not only just do commit crimes, but the unfearful of the police. i just did a ride along in southeast d.c., seeing firsthand how that part of the nation's capital is kind of dealing with in the aftermath of the unrest and really what i took away from that is just the fact that there's just a new boldness within the criminal element and unfortunately, as always the case, there's innocent people that get caught in the cross fire between the two sides and so -- no, it's very unfortunate that we are seeing this trend where even if people are arrested, they are most likely not going to face prosecution unless it's a very serious crime. >> shannon: well, and the president talked yesterday about gun control and tougher measures and those kind of things as [indiscernible] get into the bottom of the crime and getting these crime rates down. but when you talk about not being prosecuted, critics pointing to his own son, hunter

biden, in "the new york post," hunter biden should be charged for lying on his own applications from our buddy enter mccarthy since he didn't reveal his history of god, druggist, he got the gun and handled it negligently to the point that his then girlfriend found it in a car and carelessly thought to dispose of it in the trash been a local store. congress thought to be investigating clearly if a republican were involved democrats would be in whirling dervish mode and the media would be swarming. mark. >> well, that is exactly the case. i mean, there's preferential treatment depending on who you are. on which side of the aisle you fall on. i mean, right now the direction that president biden is going is he wants to go out -- he wants to prevent crime but he wants to do it at the behest of making more people criminals by banning assault rifles by attacking the second amendment, which is constitutionally given the right to the people. and that's the problem with what his direction -- he just wants to go after the people that are law-abiding and not focus on the

laws that are existing to enforce those that are criminals at already. >> shannon: yeah and it sounds like this bipartisan agreement on most people in america would agree with got laws on the books, let's enforce them, take out bad people, gun traffickers, whoever's fueling some of this crime, but yeah, let's do it with the laws that we have on the books. i want to ask you guys about the border as well. the vice president is headed down there. we are told now by her team that she will visit a border facility down there. this is what the bbc found coming to the u.s. and doing some reporting and looking at what's going on. they called the conditions there heartbreaking, said findings include allegations of sexual abuse, covid and lice outbreaks, a trial waiting hours for medical attention, a lack of clean clothes and children being served undercooked meat. >> absolutely. and this is kind of the problem where when we have thousands of people crossing into the country illegally is that all of a

sudden the border patrol facilities were overwhelmed and so they were able to build up some more facilities and get more volunteers to staff them, but as we've now seen, there's just a lot of problems with just that sudden influx and so it's good that the vice president is going to the border. unfortunately, she's choosing a spot where it's not exactly the hardest hit. the rio grande valley, which i've been too many times, is actually the hardest hit area. it's good that she's going there but it's not the place where she should see the border crisis the most. >> shannon: mark, this doesn't just stop at the border. people know that this continues into the interior of the u.s. i'm sure in colorado you had issues there as well. these are human beings, these are a lot of people who are being exploited by cartels, by coyotes. this is a bad situation for people. what you think we can do to make things better at the border? >> i think we need to do the same thing that we need to do to prevent crime, and that's enforce the laws that we have on our books and actually have a

border. because of were not going to have a border and just allow anybody to crossover, then the coyotes, the cartels -- i mean, human trafficking has exceeded the drug trade in profitability for these illegal groups, the cartels. while we have it and surprised that we haven't seen anything from isis or al qaeda also coming across the border, there's reasons why we should have it, but most importantly it's for the children. the children that are out there being used and abused by the cartels, their families are using them to gain access to the u.s. and the kids are the ones that are paying, and that's just so unfortunate. i spent a lot of time in my law-enforcement career fighting fighting against crimes against children and it's just very disparaging to see the bite in the administration and kamala harris not taking the appropriate steps that should be taken. >> shannon: well, glad that she's going for a visit. there have been calls for that

and again, her team saying she will go to a border facilities of course we will track every minute of that trip and report back to our folks. thank you. speak with experience >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: president biden outing's ability to work across the aisle to get things accomplished tonight after the white house and a bipartisan group of senators said today they've reached a tentative deal on infrastructure, but has white house correspondent kevin corke explains, this thing is far from being totally hammered out. hey, kevin. >> you know how this goes, right? you just think you got it, but maybe not and we will have to see. evening to you, shannon, obviously, and you know what, it's only in washington where you can proclaim victory before all the eyes are dotted entities are ultimately crossed. and so it is with them much ballyhooed bipartisan infrastructure agreement, which to hear the white house tell it won't complete lee satisfy anyone. and that's precisely the point. >> president biden: we have a deal. we made serious compromises on both ends. >> to hear bite and tell it, it's all good.

that is, lawmakers and the white house have a deal to forge ahead with a bipartisan infrastructure package. >> president biden: they have my word i will stick with what they propose and they've given me their word as well, so where i come from, that's good enough for me. >> the new consensus marks the end too many weeks of negotiations and partisan gridlock over the president's chief legislative priority. the discussed deal is a far cry from his original $2.3 trillion proposal. the new framework, under a trillion dollars, about 973 billion over five years with 559 billion allocated for new spending and transportation expenditures like roads, waterways, and bridges, as well as electric utilities, broadband internet and other projects. a coalition of 21 senators, 11 republicans, and ten democrats support this legislation but it will still need to garner 60 votes to override a filibuster and pass through the traditional

legislative avenue. west virginia senator joe manchin hopes that his skeptical colleagues will set aside their concerns and get on board. >> i would say [indiscernible] be the enemy of the good. >> still, democratic leaders in congress openly say they plan to pursue both a bipartisan bill and a budget reconciliation process that would circumvent the usual 60 vote threshold in the senate. that along with talk of eliminating the tax cuts to help pay for the plan, well, that has many republicans pursing her lips and rolling their eyes. >> that's our one redline. we are not going to revisit the 2017 tax bill, which is an enormous success for the country, led us to the best economy in 50 years as of february 2020. >> this is the heritage foundation's index of economic freedom gave the u.s. a ranking of 20th in the world. its worst score and ranking ever, a result of "out-of-control spending and a loss of confidence in americans

and the evenhanded rule of law." according to this year's report, while other condors have been able to maintain their economic freedom, especially through out the pandemic, the u.s. has really fallen off because of excessive government spending. unsustainable levels of debt and intrusive regulation on the health care and financial sectors. not exactly what you would expect from the most powerful country in the world, shannon. >> shannon: okay. so not a lot of bipartisanship. maybe they will get this deal across the finish line, who knows, but it's hard to find bipartisanship in d.c. but we have found something a little bit controversial. a new push involving getting cameras into a very important place. what's this about? >> very interesting because as you know -- let me give the folks at home a little background. the supreme court has never allowed cameras inside, but it does make audiotapes of oral arguments and opinions available to the public, but today, the f jc, that's the senate judiciary committee, for those of you outside of washington, approved a pair of bills that would

dramatically expand video coverage, putting the supreme court arguments on camera for the first time. both bills are bipartisan and they do have support across the aisle, but there are a lot of folks, shannon, that worry that grandstanding and showboating by lawyers and maybe even some lower court federal jurists might be an issue and knowing lawyers like i do, with all due respect to you, who is a rock star, you know that's a possibility. >> shannon: yeah, we are a little hammy from time to time, especially in the middle of it very dramatic case. i've heard from a number of the justices over the years, they do not want this. at least not at the supreme court but a number of federal courts are trying it, so we will keep tabs on it. all right, we have got something really interesting to talk about in just a couple of minutes, how watching tv can save your life. >> amazing story. >> shannon: it is great. >> one that will surprise the folks at home, i can't wait. >> shannon: okay, we will see you in just a minute. >> okay. >> shannon: thank you, kevin. internet's real news roundup,

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♪ ♪ >> shannon: his pro tip -- here's a pro tip, never try on a shock collar designed for dogs or you will end up like steve from the u.k. who got zapped with thousands of multiple electricity. his body though, i don't know that we could really call him a good friend, secretly turned the settings to the max so they might want to rethink the friendship. i'm going to tell you who the big winner is, his dog tillie because at that getting the shock steve said maybe he won't actually use the collar on his dog. now this dashcam video capturing the harrowing moment a large wooden board slipped a truck in ohio. you dread that moment. the object crashed through the windshield inches from the driver. miraculously, no one was hurt. check this out. a brave beachgoers quickly jumping into action when he saw a great white shark snagged by a fishing line, battling the waves and a creature, the unidentified man was able to successfully

free the shark, get it back in the water and, you know, back to regularly scheduled programming on the beach. two brothers from san francisco claimed that they set the record for the longest highline ever walked. stretching across 2800 feet in yosemite national park over gullies that plunged 1600 feet down. perhaps, an incredible feat. and last but certainly not least, a photographer in california was walking by when she came a couple mid proposal, able to capture this moment, went to social media to get this done and the photo did get to that newly engaged couple. a beautiful story. if you've got anything you want to share with us, do not hold back. hit us up at shannon bream or at "fox news @ night" on social media. by the way, one of you sent us some cute dog pictures last night and we are going to have those later in the show but first let's bring back kevin because i want to talk about a story for you tonight. it turns out that binge watching your favorite show can actually

help you save someone's life, so if you're a fan of the office -- and we can't be friends if you're not -- check out the story that kevin has. >> just incredible. i love that show, so i love the story. adults, believe it or not, watch tv for about five hours a day and partly binge watching -- >> shannon: what? >> yet, amazing. binge watching can actually help get focus and it certainly paid off for a man by the name of matt. as a quick thinking indiana man who with no medical training reported we helped to save his 4-year-old daughter with cpr thanks to a memorable episode of "the office." when he found his daughter, she had collapsed. his inner michael scott kicked in and he and medially performed chest compressions and breaths until first responders arrived and if you are memo that episode, you remember exactly the little tips that they gave you about what to do. and i kind of do, which is kind of crazy. and by the way, there was another story very similar to that, shannon of a young man in

arizona who also saved a woman who was in a car. she had passed out and was unconscious and he used the very same episode to help save her life. there you go. >> shannon: c, michael scott is not all bad. he had some redeeming qualities and a couple of lives hopefully saved by that show. we got some good news and some dog is to talk about later. >> see later. >> shannon: thanks, kevin. educators and board members speak out on critical race theory. a special "fox news @ night" panel, they join us next. to give you exceptional care and 20% off your treatment plan. new patients, take the first step with a complete exam and x-rays that are free without insurance. because our nationwide network of over 1,500 doctors at 900 locations all have one goal — to make you smile, today. start now. call 1-800-aspendental or book online at aspendental.com

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♪ ♪ >> shannon: a heated debate over critical race theory boiled over in a virtual house hearing featuring education secretary miguel cardona today. take a look and listen to the apparent verbal attack on virginia representative bob good. for a little background, as he was speaking, a voice could be heard shouting "racist." the screen identified the speaker is coming from the office of democratic congress meant donna barcroft from new jersey. watch this.

>> virginia's loudoun county, one of the largest counties in virginia, the board of education there, rather than face parental criticism, they shut down public comment, they actually call the police to come in and arrest parents who had gathered or expressed their grievances. >> shannon: well, tonight, all the republicans on the committee sent a letter to the democratic chairman conceding they can't be sure that it was norcross who made the remark but they are demanding public clarification and apology. we will track it. [indiscernible] from the left invested educators, schoolboard members and parents are opening up an actual debate over teaching what's been called critical race theory in our schools. so we got our own panel of experts. [indiscernible] versus indoctrination with sarasota fortis school board member and mother of three, bridget stigler. los angeles area high school history and governor will roush and loudoun county, virginia, parent john. we've got everything here. board member, teacher, and a

parent. thank you all for being with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> shannon: so let's start here. writers says this. partisan war over teaching -- critics argue there is no evidence crt is being taught in most if any public schools. they say it's become a handy red flag to promote racial equity in better outcomes for nonwhite students. you probably have a lot of unique input being school board member. what are you hearing and how you react to that characterization that there isn't a "there" there on this topic? >> i think that's a tactic. the critical race theory the undertones are heavily prevalent all throughout k-12. i think what you find is it's rebranded in many ways and where you're really going to fight it is through professional development, where it's train the trainer. you're seeing it wide and fast and i know myself, having spoken out against critical race theory in k-12, last week got chastised

publicly by my schoolboard members and really similar to what happened to congressman good. you can't speak out about it most people want to call you racist or shame you or criticize you, so i think you're seeing people, ground full of people, show up at school board meetings and speak out and they need to keep it up. >> shannon: so to the conversation about using the word "racist." congresswoman rashida tlaib said a position to critical race theory is obvious the rooted in race theory and has become the newest dog whistle for racist. you've taught in public and private schools, you're walking through this as an educator, i know some teachers are hesitant to speak publicly on this issue. i mean, they have classrooms and students to manage but when you had that kind of language, does it get off track from the conversation to help you can have with your students in a responsible way? >> yeah, for sure. no one wants to be called a racist, so it's -- that's a great tactic to get people to not push back and that's

absolutely happening. teachers are terrified. teachers are scared because paul rossi, i don't know if you're familiar with his situation in york, he spoke out against some of the practices happening in his school and he was fired. so the fears are justified and teachers are often -- you know, they don't want to lose their jobs, they have a lot of response abilities and stuff like that so it's a very valid fear that they have for sure. >> shannon: yeah, i mean, people have mortgages and families and a career that they would like to preserve, but with that in mind, john, do you worry about the conversation being stifled? i want to redo something from "the washington post." robert mccartney wrote this piece. we can't fight racism if whites see any remedy as a threat and an insult. he says the racial equity controversy also illustrates the unwillingness of many whites to tolerate even modest efforts to account for rachel disco nation in america past and present. it's an unmistakable example of white fragility. you got arrested the other night at the loudoun county meeting, it got very heated.

the speakers were cut off, the schoolboard shutdown the meeting, so what do you make of the assessment. the people who are pushing back is because you can't even admit that you have some part in this problem? >> well, certainly, you know, back in '60s, there was some serious problems with racism and we worked through that and in that process one of the most important things that was preserved was freedom of speech and that's the thing now that's being crushed if people disagree with crt or gender dysphoria or whatever you want to call it. so the most frustrating thing that i've seen isn't that there's racism. i live in one of the most diverse counties in the united states and we've never talked about racism here. until now. and that's what, to me, is so crazy. we are creating division where there wasn't division and that's what critical race theory does. it is racist. i happen to spend a lot of time

in south africa. i've seen what happens when oppressors are taken over by the oppressed and then the oppressed become the oppressors. it's an endless cycle. it doesn't solve anything and it makes no sense whatsoever. >> shannon: john, why were you willing to get arrested the other night when that meeting broke apart? >> well, i wasn't necessarily willing to get arrested, but i had helped organize the opportunity for people to speak after the schoolboard left and i told everyone we were going to stay there until everyone had a chance to speak. and suddenly we were told that we were an unlawful assembly. if i don't know how anyone could figure that one out, what was illegal going on when there were people in there peacefully and orderly just airing their grievances and when the sheriff came in and started trying to threaten people and saying they're going to be arrested, i said we are not leaving and so

finally they arrested me. >> shannon: will, give us a teacher perspective on where this puts you now between families, between administrators, between students. >> yeah, so -- yeah, so what's happening is critical race theory is kind of like the trunk of the tree and then from that, you know, that derek bell and camilla crenshaw and every thing, the 70s in a past the 80s. from that came all of these branches from critical theories and i get why the other side is saying it's not just critical race theory. because it is complex, but what's happening on the teacher's side is this concept of seeing everything through a racial lens is being pushed on the teacher. it's from the schools of education and the colleges of education down to the teachers basically -- if the indoctrination is happening more to the teachers than it is to the students. it's having teachers see the world and their students and the situation through a racial lens and then they're going into the classroom with that lens.

so there is some -- it's just -- we are not communicating clearly with the people on both sides of this debate. i think that's what i'm seeing that's really frustrating. >> shannon: bridget, quick final word to you. >> you know, i think the biggest thing is what will just said anything sony people get into the teaching profession because they are passionate about educating our students to be successful members of society and not push an agenda and so i think that it's really important that we get back to the basics, take this out of it and i don't think this debate is going to go away unless we do that. >> shannon: it will not be over anytime soon. we really appreciate the three of you giving us your unique perspectives, bridget, well, and john, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> yeah, thank you. >> shannon: can a seminary dismissed students who enter into same-sex marriage is in violation of the school's statement of faith or is that illegal disk termination? we are going to debate it next. e a long, long norwegian winter. but eventually, with spring comes rebirth.

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commercial laboratory to be tested. while, the tests were poorly detected no tuna dna. a subway spokesman told "the new york post" that type of testing is unreliable. we will stay on it. [indiscernible] dismissed same-sex marriage because of their seminary statement of faith or taking her loss lawsuit to the ninth circuit. it's a test of the biden justice department's pledge to defend christian colleges and universities accused of all gb to cure discrimination while at the same time expanding title ix protections. first liberty institute ceo kelly shackelford joins us to help answer the question, is it legal. kelly, great to see you. >> good to see you, shannon. >> shannon: so in his brief now to the ninth circuit, the plaintiff in this case says the law recognizes that the government may impose a nondiscrimination requirement on organizations, including religious organizations like fuller that chose to receive government funding, like the federal funding remaining

contingent on state federal statutes like title ix because the government is dangling the carrot of subsidy, not welding the stick of prohibition. they say it's a seminary but they take federal funding so they had no authority to tell either of these two-point us, both in same-sex marriages, that they couldn't continue their studies at the seminary. >> well, that's just wrong on a lot of levels. number one, title ix has a specific exemption for religious schools and gosh, if you don't have religious freedom for a seminary, boy, you don't have religious freedom. seminaries are there to train students to become pastors and ministers and the government has zero authority to tell them what their theology could be and who the people are that they can choose to be in training to be in the ministry. government is bad at a lot of things but i think the last thing we want them to do is to take control of our theology. that would be a pretty bad idea. and pointing out, the students, they signed a code of conduct.

i mean, they understood what the beliefs, the doctrines of fuller seminary were and they violated them. of and so it's kind of bizarre that they violate what they know and signed and then think that they can force fuller seminary to change their theology, to change their position, which are based upon the bible. >> shannon: well, the attorney for the original plaintiff in this case, woman who had a wife, said that she was open about it, that her classmates were supportive and so that she was shocked by this whole thing. bloomberg reports this statement from her attorney, says she was authentic with university and was accepted by students and professors after she married her wife. that's her attorney. it says a publicly funded institutions should not be allowed to suddenly expel a student because of her same-sex marriage, especially one who has invested over three years of time and money completing her degree. she was a long way into her studies at this point, kelly. >> yeah, sheet -- i don't think it's a big secret that fuller

seminary, does a lot of seminaries, obviously that are more traditional in their biblical approach and with the teach about marriage and god creating marriage between a man and a woman. that shouldn't have been a shock that they were going to follow their doctrine and, you know, that's -- if seminaries don't have religious freedom, then really i wonder who does have religious freedom. i mean, this is the ultimate training to allow the government to sort of dip in to our seminaries and start telling them what their theology can be, who they are picking as ministers can be would be a dangerous step. i think the district court was right here. i think the plaintiffs are going to lose. god help us if they don't and what that would mean for our country and religious freedom. so i think this -- a first amendment is going to protect this in addition to the law under title ix, which provides exemptions for religious freedom. >> shannon: and quickly i want to ask about the broader implications, because we continue to cover cases and

there are legal conflicts out there brewing that fit this conversation about religious liberty against lgbtq rights, respect for our fellow americans and, you know, what we continue to hear from them and many of their advocates is that using religious liberty is just a smoke screen. it is giving somebody like fuller seminary or an institution the right to discriminate against people. how do we square that conversation? >> you know, i think the country is plenty big to allow for both. if these folks want to go to a different seminary with different doctrine, with different beliefs and get training there, they are free to do so. but instead, you know, try to force the government in two tele- seminar what they can teach and what their standards of -- biblical standards of conduct can be, that's incredibly dangerous and so i do think we are a big enough country to allow everybody to have the freedom, but let's not try to pull the government in to

force people we disagree with to change their beliefs, violate their conscience and violate their faith. >> shannon: we will watch to see what the ninth circuit does and if you and i are having this conversation if it ends up at the supreme court, thanks always for your time. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: some good news before we say good night, a 96-year-old in texas has finally checked off a peculiar item off of her bucket list. this hospice patient wishing to get arrested. the commerce police department made her dream a reality. lieutenant marcus can tara and officer garrett bolton taking the senior into custody. look at that mug shot and everything. he issued her a warrant for public intoxication back in the year 1949. the now-convict says the experience was great. kevin, i love that so much. she's like straight out of commerce. she's got her gangster little mug shot, black and white. i loved it. >> i love! >> shannon: is not something that i would wish for but i love

that she made her dream come true. >> was great as her friends will never stop talking about that and her family too. i just love that. for mine i'm going to take you to the city of broad shoulders, the windy city of chicago, where a 7-year-old by the name of daniel d.j. armani got to sit behind the wheel of a fire truck and got lots of cool swag, all because he was cool under pressure and helped to save his mom's life. he actually called 911 because his mom was having an epileptic seizure and despite his age, he remained very calm, he relayed critical information while comforting his mother, so d.j., we all salute you and your mom for teaching is so well. you are good news and good night to remember. >> shannon: he is. he is a hero! okay -- and very smart. i love that he was so mature in a panic to think of all those things. one more thing quickly before we go, we always tell our viewers send us things and we had a story last night about doggies with sunglasses on floating around in the pool. take a look at what we got in response. this is sophia, a family member

of one of our viewers named harry, a couple of really cute pictures to show you. thank you, harry, for sending in his pictures. there it is, sunglasses and hanging out by the pool. so just a reminder, if you've got something you want to share, don't hold back. you can send it to kevin corke or me on social media and maybe it will end up on the show. >> i love! to be on kevin, we will see you back here tomorrow. that's it for us from washington. neutrogena® beach defense® the suncare brand used most by dermatologists and their families, neutrogena® for people with skin.

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